# Generated with http://www.agfa.com/w3c/euler/#R31030 on 30 Jul 2002 18:45:23 GMT # for query http://www.agfa.com/w3c/euler/rdfc25May-test.n3 # given {http://www.agfa.com/w3c/euler/rdfc25May.n3=[]} @prefix pd: . @prefix pa: . @prefix w: . @prefix rdfc: . @prefix n: . @prefix who: . @prefix mr: . @prefix m: . @prefix log: . @prefix u: . u:label "W3C RDFCore Working Group". a rdfc:Teleconference. mr:date "2001-05-25". mr:roll _:7434986. _:7434986 n:_1 _:3106436. _:3106436 mr:from who:brian_mcbride. _:3106436 a mr:ChairAck. _:7434986 n:_2 _:7571352. _:7571352 mr:from who:danbri. _:7571352 a mr:Present. _:7434986 n:_3 _:4923951. _:4923951 mr:from who:barstow. _:4923951 a mr:Present. _:7434986 n:_4 _:3238392. _:3238392 mr:from who:beckett. _:3238392 a mr:Present. _:7434986 n:_5 _:2381750. _:2381750 mr:from who:frank. _:2381750 a mr:Absent. _:7434986 n:_6 _:8026323. _:8026323 mr:from who:connolly. _:8026323 a mr:ScribeAck. _:7434986 n:_7 _:1217030. _:1217030 mr:from who:rdaniel. _:1217030 a mr:Regrets. _:7434986 n:_8 _:3207485. _:3207485 mr:from who:bdehora. _:3207485 a mr:Present. _:7434986 n:_10 _:350965. _:350965 mr:from who:rael. _:350965 a mr:Absent. _:7434986 n:_9 _:3014669. _:3014669 mr:from who:deroo. _:3014669 a mr:Regrets. _:7434986 n:_11 _:1482257. _:1482257 mr:from who:grant. _:1482257 a mr:Present. _:7434986 n:_12 _:6527550. _:6527550 mr:from who:horner. _:6527550 a mr:Absent. _:7434986 n:_13 _:2330935. _:2330935 mr:from who:renato. _:2330935 a mr:Absent. _:7434986 n:_14 _:1238924. _:1238924 mr:from who:ykitahara. _:1238924 a mr:Absent. _:7434986 n:_15 _:2080403. _:2080403 mr:from who:Klyne. _:2080403 a mr:Regrets. _:7434986 n:_16 _:1630127. _:1630127 mr:from who:mkopchenov. _:1630127 a mr:Absent. _:7434986 n:_17 _:362000. _:362000 mr:from who:lassila. _:362000 a mr:Absent. _:7434986 n:_18 _:2398389. _:2398389 mr:from who:fmanola. _:2398389 a mr:Present. _:7434986 n:_19 _:2468673. _:2468673 mr:from who:snakamura. _:2468673 a mr:Absent. _:7434986 n:_20 _:933472. _:933472 mr:from who:spetschu. _:933472 a mr:Present. _:7434986 n:_21 _:2172400. _:2172400 mr:from who:pgr. _:2172400 a mr:Absent. _:7434986 n:_22 _:4312351. _:4312351 mr:from who:aswartz. _:4312351 a mr:Present. _:7434986 n:_23 _:110499. _:110499 mr:from who:mdean. _:110499 a mr:Present. _:7434986 n:_24 _:3274522. _:3274522 mr:from who:guha. _:3274522 a mr:Absent. _:7434986 n:_25 _:5636586. _:5636586 mr:from who:em. _:5636586 a mr:Present. mr:agenda _:1561175. _:1561175 n:_1 _:7494106. _:7494106 u:label """00 Welcome, Roll Call, volunteer scribe, Agenda Review Minutes of previous meeting""". _:7494106 mr:summary """minutes recorded by EricM approved as corrected in 0124, 0125 @@links. DanBri: intends to meet with Guha next week in IRC and to get a brain dump from him. McBride solicits folks with test cases to send them to him. McBride reminds all that ftf is scheduled for 1,2 Aug. agenda request: discussion of communicating resolutions to developer community. """. _:7494106 mr:result _:6893794. _:6893794 a mr:ActionAck. _:6893794 mr:index n:_1. _:6893794 mr:from who:guha. _:6893794 u:label "Solicit RDF feature usage info and report back to the group". _:7494106 mr:result _:555115. _:555115 a mr:ActionDone. _:555115 mr:index n:_2. _:555115 mr:from who:beckett. _:555115 u:label "Update the proposed changes for this issue[@@which?] and add test cases to demonstrate how they worked.". _:7494106 mr:result _:1687682. _:1687682 mr:index n:_3. _:1687682 mr:from who:lassilla. _:1687682 mr:from who:danbri. _:1687682 u:label """send analysis (#rdf-container-syntax-ambiguity and #rdf-containers-syntax-vs-schema)to rdfcore-wg list""". _:1687682 a mr:ActionAck. _:7494106 mr:result _:3003101. _:3003101 mr:index n:_4. _:3003101 mr:from who:beckett. _:3003101 u:label "re #rdfms-not-id-and-resource-attr: Revise analysis and post to list". _:3003101 a mr:ActionDone. _:7494106 mr:result _:7267180. _:7267180 mr:index n:_4. _:7267180 mr:from who:guha. _:7267180 u:label "re #rdfms-reification-required: Present analaysis to list for discussion.". _:7267180 a mr:ActionAck. _:7494106 mr:result _:1367942. _:1367942 mr:index n:_6. _:1367942 mr:from who:brian_mcbride. _:1367942 u:label "Link test cases, results etc. from issues list". _:1367942 a mr:ActionAck. _:7494106 mr:result _:6224410. _:6224410 mr:index n:_7. _:6224410 mr:from who:grant. _:6224410 u:label "Do an analysis of the impact of XML Base and summarise to list.". _:6224410 a mr:ActionAck. _:7494106 mr:result _:7723526. _:7723526 mr:index n:_8. _:7723526 mr:from who:brian_mcbride. _:7723526 u:label "Contact Rael about hosting face to face at O'Reilly.". _:7723526 a mr:ActionAck. _:7494106 mr:result _:3997960. _:3997960 mr:index n:_9. _:3997960 mr:from who:Klyne. _:3997960 mr:from who:fmanola. _:3997960 u:label """to summarize www-rdf-logic perspective of reification as it applies to both logic and rdf andreport back to rdfcore wg""". _:3997960 a mr:ActionAck. _:7494106 mr:result _:971877. _:971877 mr:index n:_10. _:971877 a mr:Withdrawn. _:971877 u:label "dup of A9". _:7494106 mr:result _:1730954. _:1730954 mr:index n:_11. _:1730954 mr:from who:em. _:1730954 u:label "to provide a solution enabling write access to RDF M&S and Schema errata documents.". _:1730954 a mr:ActionDone. _:7494106 mr:result _:460670. _:460670 mr:deliverable . _:460670 mr:index n:_12. _:460670 mr:from who:barstow. _:460670 u:label """to formalize his suggestion RDFCore changes be reflected in a separate page so developers can easily find these issues/resolutions.""". _:460670 a mr:ActionDone. _:1561175 n:_2 _:8187137. _:8187137 u:label "15 re issues: #rdf-containers-syntax-ambiguity #rdf-containers-syntax-vs-schema". _:8187137 mr:summary "postponed. @@make this a class.". _:1561175 n:_3 _:2884840. _:2884840 u:label "30 re issue: #rdf-ns-prefix-confusion". _:2884840 mr:summary """ Connolly: so the language doesn't contain these documents. Good. that's clear. Connolly: licensing processors to accept documents that aren't in the language is risky... the user community learns what the language is by what the tools do. [... scribe is discussing too much to do a good job recording; help? ] EricM: there's a requirement for syntactic inclusion in HTML. BillD: I think we need to fix productions 4, 5, and 9 DaveB: I listed a bunch of productions in item2 of the proposal... BillD: let's make it clear that folks MUST NOT use unprefixed resource/about/.. attrs. em notes that he may have overstated earlier requirements as there is no specified requirement of syntactic inclusion in M&S Specification. item 7 is withdrawn; change is incorporated into item 2. ArtB: so you're changing production 6.19 so that the prefix is not optional? DaveB: yes. ArtB: do folks realize there might be a lot of RDF out there in this form? several: yes. BillD: this looks like an erratum then; the grammar had a typo. EricM: let's note this in both places: the errata and the developers page. BrianM: DaveB's proposal should be couched in terms of 'namespace qualified' rather than 'namespace prefixed'. scribe note: "prefixed" doesn't occur in the RDF 1.0 spec. DaveB: I have 7 tests. """. _:2884840 mr:result _:7754385. _:7754385 a mr:Decision. _:7754385 u:label """ The current RDF/XML syntax uses the following attributes in the syntax: about aboutEach aboutEachPrefix ID bagID resource parseType -- List of RDF attributes (henceforth The List) The remaining concepts are not in the list because: a. Seq Bag Alt Property Statement These are rdfs:Class-es and can never be used as attributes b. RDF Description Syntax only things that have no current use as attributes c. li _ subject predicate object type value Not allowed to be used unprefixed according to the grammar Note Re: aboutEach aboutEachPrefix At present it is expected these will be removed from the specification although the WG has not addressed this yet. See thread at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001May/0123.html [@@@hmm... formatting/structure of decisions] """. _:2884840 mr:result _:2548785. _:2548785 a mr:Decision. _:2548785 u:label """ 2. The grammar will be corrected to require namespace-qualification for all attributes for The List. A namespace prefix MUST be used for these attributes, where the namespace prefix points to the RDF URI http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns# The meaning of the attributes is defined by the appropriate RDF M&S sections and is not modified here. The changes to the grammar at http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-rdf-syntax/#grammar include modifying productions 6.6, 6.7, 6.8, 6.9, 6.11, 6.18, 6.32, 6.33 to have rdf: added before all the attributes. There are almost certainly other changes to the grammar, as well as changes throughout the rest of the document such as examples and in-text mentions. """. _:2884840 mr:result _:5213611. _:5213611 a mr:Decision. _:5213611 u:label "to remove 3, 4, 5 from the proposal of Thu, 24 May 2001 14:47:07 +0100; i.e. not to license RDF processors to accept documents that contain unprefixed attributes". _:2884840 mr:result _:6155203. _:6155203 a mr:Decision. _:6155203 u:label """6. The grammar will be corrected to allow non-prefixed [correction: _not_ non-qualified] RDF elements (NOT attributes) when a default XML namespace is defined with an xmlns="..." attribute. Discussion: For example ... is currently forbidden by production 6.3; it requires rdf:Description """. _:2884840 mr:result _:2198178. _:2198178 a mr:ActionAck. _:2198178 mr:from who:brian_mcbride. _:2198178 u:label "edit the errata per the resolutions above; i.e. those regarding #rdf-ns-prefix-confusion". _:2884840 mr:result _:1362540. _:1362540 a mr:ActionAck. _:1362540 mr:from who:beckett. _:1362540 u:label "assemble test cases re #rdf-ns-prefix-confusion and suggest details of how the grammar in the spec should be updated.". _:1561175 n:_4 _:7704795. _:7704795 u:label "Format for expected results of test cases". _:7704795 mr:summary """jang: we have an evolving convention for test case input; I have a suggestion for "expected results" format. that I intend to send.""". _:7704795 mr:result _:7947172. _:7947172 a mr:ActionAck. _:7947172 mr:from who:grant. _:7947172 u:label "propose expected results format.". _:1561175 n:_5 _:4719703. _:4719703 u:label "Adjournment". _:4719703 mr:result _:1375836. _:1375836 a mr:Decision. _:1375836 u:label "to meet again one week hence". mr:previous . mr:meetingCall . mr:archivedIn . m:subject "RDFCore WG 2001-05-25 Teleconference Agenda". mr:archivedIn . _:4687246 mr:record . _:4687246 mr:date "2001-05-18". rdfc:Teleconference a u:Class. rdfc:Teleconference u:label "Teleconference". rdfc:Teleconference u:seeAlso . # Proof found for http://www.agfa.com/w3c/euler/rdfc25May-test.n3 in 4378 steps (70619 steps/sec)